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alldatndensum Admin

Number of posts: 9543 Age: 42 Localisation: Tennessee Registration date: 2007-01-30
 | Subject: Computer RAM Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:36 pm | |
| I just doubled the RAM memory on my desktop computer. It is running SO much faster. _________________  I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. |
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Fundy

Number of posts: 2284 Age: 38 Registration date: 2007-05-04
 | Subject: Re: Computer RAM Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:50 pm | |
| that's the way. Boost em up!
Fundy _________________ My Christian Metal Website......... www.bbillett.freeserve.co.uk
Three Things for a better life... 1 - Believe In Jesus. 2 - Love one another. 3 - Let God be the judge. That is all I need to say.
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Staybrite

Number of posts: 8649 Age: 44 Localisation: Seattle Registration date: 2007-02-08
 | Subject: Re: Computer RAM Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:14 pm | |
| I need to do the same. But I got several other things on the list ahead of it. _________________ "I used to be indecisive.......... Now I'm not sure."
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rockerVu2

Number of posts: 8653 Registration date: 2007-02-09
 | Subject: Re: Computer RAM Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:49 am | |
| My computer is very slow when I start it. It takes ages to load all things. Maybe it's because my computer is old and the new one is not ready for use. |
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Guilty/Forgiven

Number of posts: 2846 Age: 42 Localisation: Terra Firma Registration date: 2007-05-18
 | Subject: Re: Computer RAM Wed Jun 10, 2009 11:07 pm | |
| I've been keeping my old Dell on life support for the last couple years... mainly cuz I hate Vista and want to keep using XP. But we broke down and got a new tower (with Vista... ugh). However, I can't wait till it arrives cuz it's beefed up with the latest and greatest. I should start a blog tracking how many days it takes for a new top-of-the-line PC to begin slowing down and getting errors and stuff.  |
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alldatndensum Admin

Number of posts: 9543 Age: 42 Localisation: Tennessee Registration date: 2007-01-30
 | Subject: Re: Computer RAM Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:29 am | |
| | Quote: | I should start a blog tracking how many days it takes for a new top-of-the-line PC to begin slowing down and getting errors and stuff. |
When you get your first Windows update, that's when it starts slowing down. I know that I will sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I think that Microsoft intentionally messes with your old OS so that you'll have to buy the new one._________________  I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. |
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rockerVu2

Number of posts: 8653 Registration date: 2007-02-09
 | Subject: Re: Computer RAM Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:49 am | |
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Guilty/Forgiven

Number of posts: 2846 Age: 42 Localisation: Terra Firma Registration date: 2007-05-18
 | Subject: Re: Computer RAM Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:47 am | |
| | Quote: | When you get your first Windows update, that's when it starts slowing down. I know that I will sound like a conspiracy theorist, but I think that Microsoft intentionally messes with your old OS so that you'll have to buy the new one. _________________ |
hmmmm, interesting. I don't doubt this. |
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Tall Tyrion

Number of posts: 963 Age: 44 Registration date: 2007-05-17
 | Subject: Re: Computer RAM Sun Jun 14, 2009 10:19 am | |
| I avoid updating anything for that very reason. The first thing I do with a new comp is shut down all automatic updates. |
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Guilty/Forgiven

Number of posts: 2846 Age: 42 Localisation: Terra Firma Registration date: 2007-05-18
 | Subject: Re: Computer RAM Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:02 am | |
| But (speaking as an ignorant novice on this issue), aren't you supposed to do the updates for patches and security and stuff that's necessary ? Or have I been duped into thinking these updates are as important as defragging and other maintenance ??? |
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alldatndensum Admin

Number of posts: 9543 Age: 42 Localisation: Tennessee Registration date: 2007-01-30
 | Subject: Re: Computer RAM Thu Jun 18, 2009 8:09 am | |
| The security updates are supposed to be necessary. Defragging is good if you have a lot of stuff on your computer, but it doesn't have to be a once-a-month thing. _________________  I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. |
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topshot rhit
Number of posts: 1819 Localisation: Indiana Registration date: 2007-01-30
 | Subject: Re: Computer RAM Fri Jun 19, 2009 9:01 am | |
| I still update but have it set to tell me when they are available and then choose the ones I want or don't want. I usually wait a while as well. I subscribe to a newsletter that would indicate if some update caused any serious issues (as SP3 did).
Defragging is good if you do lots of downloading, ripping or create and delete files frequently. It really makes no difference if you have a lot of stuff on your PC. What matters is how much that stuff expands and contracts and how that stuff was originally written to the disk. What it does is rearrange where portions of files are located on the disc so they are contiguous and can be read without moving the heads as far. IMHO, it's not quite as important on today's faster drives, CPUs and busses, but you'd still notice it if you have lots of fragmentation. For example, let's say you rip a new CD. In my case, I don't compress my files much (I use a lossless format) so each song will be 20-40 MB. Furthermore, it actually rips to WAV first and then converts to my chosen format, then deletes the WAV. I'm not sure of the algorithms used to choose where the OS starts writing, but for simplicity sake, we'll just assume it uses the first "free" block on your drive. Let's say this block is only 2 MB (we'll ignore sector boundaries and whatnot in this discussion also). Once it fills the block, it moves to the next free block. This repeats until the full file is ripped (or downloaded). Then the encoding starts and it does the same thing for this new file. While that's happening, the next WAVs are being ripped. So you end up with your files being broken into parts all over your drive (sort of filling in the holes in the swiss cheese) rather than being in one bigger location. Thus, when reading the file, the head has to move around much more. Defragging moves all these chunks so they are back to back. BTW, if you're simply moving a file from one drive to another, it picks a block that will fit the size (since it knows at this point how big the file actually is) so it doesn't fragment then unless there isn't a single block that will fit the file. That is why ripping CDs and DVDs are likely the worst for fragmentation. Downloading also doesn't know how big the whole file is sometimes so it just starts filling whatever free block it finds first. BTW, you can't defrag if you have less than 15% free space on the drive. _________________ "If you are not concerned about your neighbor's salvation, you should be concerned about your own."
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