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PostSubject: The woman The child and The dragon   Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:10 am

revalation 12

1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
2And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
3And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
4And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
6And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.
7And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
8And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
9And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
10And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
11And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
12Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.
13And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.
14And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.
15And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.
16And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.
17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

Your thoughts on this chapter would be nice and it would give me some different views on it


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PostSubject: Re: The woman The child and The dragon   Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:45 am

I have read that this "woman" is Israel' and that the "child" was Christ Himself. The dragon is Satan who sought to destroy God's chosen people (Israel first, then Christians after the crucifixion/resurrection).

If you reread this chapter using those keys, it should make a lot more sense to you.

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PostSubject: Re: The woman The child and The dragon   Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:12 pm

Let me read this chapter in my own Bible first.
I have a Life Application Bible with extra information.
Let me try to give you the explanation that it makes it easier for you to understand this.
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PostSubject: Re: The woman The child and The dragon   Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:08 pm

alldatndensum wrote:
I have read that this "woman" is Israel' and that the "child" was Christ Himself. The dragon is Satan who sought to destroy God's chosen people (Israel first, then Christians after the crucifixion/resurrection).

If you reread this chapter using those keys, it should make a lot more sense to you.

i thought that the woman was mary her self
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PostSubject: Re: The woman The child and The dragon   Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:49 pm

drumdude wrote:
alldatndensum wrote:
I have read that this "woman" is Israel' and that the "child" was Christ Himself. The dragon is Satan who sought to destroy God's chosen people (Israel first, then Christians after the crucifixion/resurrection).

If you reread this chapter using those keys, it should make a lot more sense to you.

i thought that the woman was mary her self

The Catholics do believe that the woman is Mary herself, but that doesn't really seem to fit with the part about fleeing to the wilderness. That seems to fit more with the woman being Israel (at least IMHO).

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