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alldatndensum
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|  Subject: Potential new drum kits for my studio  Mon May 07, 2007 4:34 pm | |
| I am looking at both a Yamaha and a Roland electric kit to replace my Hart set that is slowly dying. Here's what I am looking at:
Yamaha
Roland _________________  I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. |
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rockerVu2
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Mon May 07, 2007 4:43 pm | |
| Cool, but expensive stuff is this. |
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Staybrite
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Age: 44
Localisation: Seattle
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Mon May 07, 2007 5:26 pm | |
| So you have used electric drum kits for all of your solo albums?
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alldatndensum
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Mon May 07, 2007 9:44 pm | |
| I have. I can't get the same separation of each drum having it's own separate track like a lot of pro bands, but the electrics do come in handy. With electrics, the neighbors never hear them and will never complain about the noise. With my studio being in a small room, electrics take up much less space than acoustics. And, the purchase price of these two electric kits are much less than buying a good quality acoustic kit, cymbals, and high quality drum mics. _________________ I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. |
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Staybrite
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Tue May 08, 2007 2:46 pm | |
| Well I thought you just packed in the drum kit (for which ever drummer you used) and had to mic all that stuff.
I never would have known the difference between the electric kit and an acoustic (as far as your albums). If you hadn't said something.
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alldatndensum
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Fri May 11, 2007 8:44 am | |
| If I get the Rolands, you will be even less likely to think they were electric. These have cymbals that produce three tones each. The snare is also capable of giving you a "rimshot" sound plus it's standard sound. The highhat pad is also much more realistic sounding than my current Harts. So, it's just a matter of figuring out where the $999 to buy these is coming from. Think anyone would want to buy a kidney???  _________________ I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. |
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Staybrite
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Fri May 11, 2007 3:30 pm | |
| Wow, a grand for an electric kit. You need to start hiring yourself out to record demos.
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alldatndensum
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Fri May 11, 2007 5:09 pm | |
| When I finish this CD, I intend to! _________________ I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. |
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sabidoo
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Localisation: Gordonsville, TN
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Sun May 13, 2007 12:40 am | |
| Sabidoo Says
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alldatndensum
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Sun May 13, 2007 8:30 pm | |
| And Sabidoo needs to cough up the $5600 for the kit he desires! _________________ I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. |
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rockerVu2
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Mon May 14, 2007 7:41 am | |
| :lol!:
Have youmade a decision what it will be?
The Yamaha or the Roland?
Can you listen how both kits sounds online? |
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alldatndensum
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Wed May 16, 2007 10:48 am | |
| | Quote: | | Wow, a grand for an electric kit. |
When you look at the cost of buying a high quality acoustic kit, good drum mics, and needing an isolation chamber to keep the drums from disturbing the neighbors, electrics are CHEAP. It would cost me about $4000 to do what I would need to do to house an acoustic kit. Plus, I just don't have the space. Electric kits are typically smaller than a full sized acoustic kit._________________ I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. |
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Staybrite
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Wed May 16, 2007 2:42 pm | |
| | alldatndensum wrote: | | Quote: | | Wow, a grand for an electric kit. |
It would cost me about $4000 to do what I would need to do to house an acoustic kit. |
Oh I believe that easy, but you don't even really play the drums (even recreationaly) do you?
I talked to our drummer at church this weekend about electric kits. He only has an acoustic set, but says he would probably own an electric kit if he had the money. He said they are great for mid to low budget recording. But according to him almost nobody plays them on a regular basis. He said that is mostly because you lose your technique if you don't play on the acoustic kit.
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alldatndensum
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Wed May 16, 2007 9:48 pm | |
| | Quote: | Oh I believe that easy, but you don't even really play the drums (even recreationaly) do you?
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Well, I can play, but I'm not the greatest. If I were to practice, I could be a lot better than I am. But, drums are just an instrument that I just never really cared to play. It's always been bass & guitar.
| Quote: | | He said they are great for mid to low budget recording. But according to him almost nobody plays them on a regular basis. He said that is mostly because you lose your technique if you don't play on the acoustic kit. |
I don't really see how you would lose your technique. Electric kits are touch sensitive just like an acoustic drum. In other words, the harder you hit makes them louder. Softer strikes reduce volume. Also, with a lot of newer electrics, hitting the drum heads in different areas can produce different tones._________________ I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. |
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Staybrite
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Thu May 17, 2007 2:17 pm | |
| | alldatndensum wrote: |
I don't really see how you would lose your technique. Electric kits are touch sensitive just like an acoustic drum. In other words, the harder you hit makes them louder. Softer strikes reduce volume. Also, with a lot of newer electrics, hitting the drum heads in different areas can produce different tones. |
Well the example he gave me was relative to the cymbals but he said pretty much the same thing about where and how you strike the cymbal for different tones etc.
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Tall Tyrion
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Thu May 17, 2007 3:07 pm | |
| I hate electric sets. Hate em, hate em, hate em.
But that's what I would do if I were you. Makes much more sense in your situation.
I'm thinking of getting a new Mapex set m'self. |
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alldatndensum
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Mon May 21, 2007 3:33 pm | |
| | Quote: | Well the example he gave me was relative to the
cymbals but he said pretty much the same thing about where and how you
strike the cymbal for different tones etc. |
Many of the new ekits have three way cymbals now. The Roland kit that I have decided to get has these. You can have the cymbals ring out naturally, play the bell, and even choke them. So, losing technique can't really be that big of a deal. There might be a few moments of having to refamiliarize with one or the other as you transition.
| Quote: | | I hate electric sets. Hate em, hate em, hate em. |
C'mon--you know you want a set!
| Quote: | | But that's what I would do if I were you. Makes much more sense in your situation. |
Yes, if I were playing drums in a band, I would want acoustic drums and mics. But, as you said, in my situation these ekits will serve quite nicely._________________ I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. |
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alldatndensum
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Tue May 22, 2007 7:46 am | |
| And, as of about 2 minutes ago, I placed my order for the Roland kit. Should be here in a couple of days. Then, I can hopefully get back to finishing this CD. _________________ I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. |
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Staybrite
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Tue May 22, 2007 2:25 pm | |
| You sould post a pic of it in action. Maybe sabidoo laying down some wicked country beat.  --
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alldatndensum
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| | Subject: Re: Potential new drum kits for my studio Tue May 22, 2007 3:46 pm | |
| IF Sabidoo ever gets off the road long enough to record! _________________ I might have decided, or maybe not, that I should or shouldn't, depending on the issue or non-issue, to possibly share or not share, any thoughts, opinions, or facts (that might not be deemed factual by some), due to possible fear of any misinterpretation or retribution. |
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